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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2004 1:21 pm Post subject: What turns YOU on at Club Gero G |
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Cyloha Websurfer.....
Got reallllly turned on the Club 0 G 2day.....
Haven´t read it yet but try to get it!
What turns you, the lucky ones that read it on most in Cl0G ?
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: turn ons |
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well, I wrote it so I don't know if I'm allowed to say. But the thing that turns me on the most in that world - and in ours - is the phenomenon that thinking makes it so. That what we dream we can behold. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2004 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I think you are allowed
A Forum brings autor, artist, reader, publisher, fans and critics together. It has a circular form.....
"....phenomenon that thinking makes it so"
Yeah... Interpretation of reality with imagination becomes intergination, the art of myth, art of creation, art of reality....realitv...Tribal Vision....mything...my thing
The dream is an expanded state of imagination and therefore interpretation and therefore reality....
Quantum Magic......
The Art of "Dreaming Life" works best, I personally figured, when giving the "jam", the "improvisation" of the dream to spirit in it´s many forms....spirit jams on us and the coolest syncronictic flow happens and life becomes more peaceful....
I feel we pretty much start to understand how important concious, aware, meditativ dreaming is...in order to dream a harmonious world, where consence is not reached by long intellectual discussions...it is a natural byproduct of intuitive connection with the one source we all emerge from....an "open source"....
and when we as humans are fully updated to our new Quantum Operating System....updated from our binary, dualistic OS.....consence might mean also consence with the paradox....
I like "shared dream conciousness"...a meme that works with me. Thx Douglas
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What turns me on, is the idea of "shared dream consciousness", and the fact that the people of the Club Zero-G keep returning to the same place in their dreams. This really strikes a chord in me because I've found that I've returned to a few places in my dreams, that seem to me like parts of another realm that exists if I'm lucky enough to get access to it. And ever since I was young I've wondered if the people in my dreams are dreaming the same thing that night. So far I've found it's not been the case, but I still wonder... |
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Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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I remember being something like 8 or 9. I had many lucid dreams at that time and mostly tried to get out of my dream when the demons came. I had nightmares with recursive demons and golden pyramid space ships falling down to earth since I was 2. My sister got a Tape recorder as I was 4 and my most beloved thing with this recorder was to tell my dreams, replay and liste to them.
That was my first dream journal and helped me to become more and more a lucid dreamer over time.
One day, being 8 or 9, there were cool and caring people in my dream. I became lucid again and asked them innocent "How is it, to live in my dream ?
They said something like: "Just as living in your dream world after waking up"
I found that simple and it had impact.
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I've never had many dreams about demons, unless they've chosen to manifest themselves as human because that's pretty much all that fills my dreamspace. Golden pyramid spaceships sound like a trip, although you called them nightmares so maybe not? What happens to them when they fall down to earth?
I played with a tape recorder when I was younger too (about 10 years old) and I used to cut up commercials and songs off the radio for fun..
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One day, being 8 or 9, there were cool and caring people in my dream. I became lucid again and asked them innocent "How is it, to live in my dream ?
They said something like: "Just as living in your dream world after waking up"
I found that simple and it had impact. |
I meet lots of cool people in my dreams too and always wonder what they do when I wake up. Interesting that the people in your dream referred to our waking world as a dream world. Does this have anything to do with consensus reality?
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Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Cyloha Neko and sorry for being late...
Thought I get replies via eMail but somehow "no" .
I just saw your thread right now.....
"What happens to them when they fall down to earth?" (the golden Pyramid ships)
Well the people inside were jumping out before the ships crashed to Earth.
I allways tried to escape to a place where no ship could hit me.
Usually it was a huge "edge" of a mountain and I jumped my self, could fly a bit and before hitting earth, I woke up......
I also did the radio, media cut´s and remix a couple years after my Dream Journal Taping.... (It was fun and trained my radio skills, that I used professionally for a while)
" Does this have anything to do with consensus reality?"
you ask.....
Could you specify what you mean with consensus reality in that context ? (I haven´t read Club Zero G yet )
Somehow it appears as Multilayered dreams within dreams. Who could say which dream is reality, which reality a dream ?
For me personally everything appears as a dream to me, a Dreamtime, a Leela that plays with Maya........
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Hello ra, no need for apologies
About my consensus reality question, what I was trying to get at was that the way we see our world can be labeled as a dream because we're not seeing it the way we could be. There have been studies that say infants see a lot more than what we consider normal, and that gradually as the months go by, their worldview conforms to what most everybody else in the world sees (the consensus). What do babies see that we older persons don't? |
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I think Babies still have a direct link of visual/kinesthetic/empathic sensual awareness.....
Later, I think, this link gets more and more lost....."visual" becomes the primary sense and is centered around the materialistic world....
Intuition/Empathy is not a trained skill in our school system and has lost value in the "consensus" society.....
(But get´s a revival, especially in Management) The value for this is amping up......
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In psychedelic realities this link get´s somehow reactivated and seems like our natural way of "seefeeling" things......> the Dream Conciousness Awareness..........
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:25 am Post subject: yeah |
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I like that dream part, too. Especially because sometimes you can change things around in dreams when you're in there. It feels as though if you can learn to do this well in a dream, you might be able to translate this ability into real life.
I'd think the key to making that happen is having more than one person involved. Thus, the story. |
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